The EU's high standard for Democracy

Yes folks.. spending millions of dollars to try to bully countries into approving their currency.. which forces everyone to cut their spending to pay for france and germany. putting out a hundred upon hundreds of pages of constitution going into all manner of minutae.. people can they just say "no" welll..... Not in the EU

France and the Netherlands should re-run their referendums to obtain the "right answer" if their voters reject Europe's constitutional treaty in imminent national ballots, Jean-Claude Juncker, the holder of the EU presidency, said on Wednesday.

The Luxembourg prime minister said all 25 EU member countries should continue their attempts to ratify the treaty whatever the outcome of the French and Dutch votes.

thats right.. screw the fact the treaty can't be legally binding.. we'll find a way to make those froggies and dutchies do it right

"The countries which have said No will have to ask themselves the question again. And if we don't manage to find the right answer, the treaty will not enter into force," he said in an interview with the Belgian Le Soir newspaper.

"No no you stupid frogs you did it wrong.. vote yes this time" clearly a great way to influence voters

Pro-constitution politicians across Europe have been sounding increasingly alarmist about the consequences of a No vote. "If the No side wins on Sunday, it will be a catastrophe for France, for Chirac, for everyone," Mr Juncker said in his interview.

Jean-Pierre Raffarin, France's prime minister, warned on Wednesday that a No vote could deter foreign investment and damage the French economy. "Do you think that a France that cuts itself off, that says No to Europe will be attractive for new investments and new jobs?" he said in a television interview. "The No to Europe would be a No to investment."

because clearly voting no on the constitution would negate all the legally binding EU agreements.... Oh wait, No that would be a LIE

Mr Raffarin's warnings were echoed by Claude Bébéar, chairman of the supervisory board of Axa, the French insurance group, which manages $1,000bn (€795bn) of assets. He said a No vote would make it more difficult for European companies to compete with rivals in the US and Asia. "A No vote is not the end of world but Europe would lose 10 years, maybe more," he told the FT.

"People who say it will be a revolution, something awful, are lying. The real problems will not happen immediately, but in the longer run," said Mr Bébéar, one of France's most influential businessmen.

oooooooh the EU won't get 10 years

the EU is a farce and it is slowly melting down

and i for one say good