Friday, June 10, 2005

Two news stories one clueless government

Ok.. GWB is out working it for the Paytoilet.. err Patriot act but folks lets see how needed it really is

WASHINGTON — In the weeks and months before Sept. 11, 2001 (search), the FBI had some clues, but didn't see them. It had a lead from one of its own agents, but didn't follow it.


yes as i have been telling people since 01 we had many many times we could have got all the terrorists. but the government has just now released a report on it

well.. I am normally loathe to quote from Al-Press but lets see where this goes

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales (search) acknowledged Friday that there were laws on the books before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks that "discouraged the sharing of information" among law enforcement and intelligence agencies.

Appearing on NBC's "Today" show, Gonzales noted that many of those laws "have now been dismantled" and said he thinks the government is in a better position than before to avert such attacks. "You have the ability to connect the dots" of terrorist plots, Gonzales said.


What the attorney general also, neglects to tell you, is that laws were on the books requiring them to talk.

WHat laws blocked it? well laws governing how we collect evidence in criminal matters. yes the FBI read the law wrong so 3000+ people died.

Even when the bureau had hard information shortly before the attacks about the presence in the United States of eventual hijackers Nawaf al Hazmi (search) and Khalid al Mihdhar (search), "the FBI's investigation then was conducted without much urgency or priority," the report concluded.

The investigation of Mihdhar "was given to a single inexperienced agent," the report said.


two terrorists, living with an Informant.. why send some one who knows what he's doing to you know... INVESTIGATE

i mean, i know this is shocking

Today, "no terrorism lead goes unaddressed," and new policies are in place to share information among intelligence agencies, the FBI said.


here in my area, an area where some of the September 11th hijackers trained and worked. the man who rented cars to Atta had a whole slew of palestinian students come and rent cars

did the FBI respond to him when he called

no it took them more then a week

but.. lets continue

According to the report, CIA employees and four FBI agents assigned to the CIA's bin Laden unit on Jan. 5, 2000, accessed incoming cables containing a substantial amount of information about Mihdhar, including that he was traveling and that he had a U.S. visa. Those facts weren't disseminated to the FBI.

The information was written up that day by one of the FBI agents assigned to the CIA's bin Laden unit. The FBI agent sought, but was never able to get, the required go-ahead from the CIA's deputy chief of the unit to send the draft to the FBI. Ten days later, Mihdhar and Hazmi were in Los Angeles.

All of the CIA and FBI personnel who were involved in the matter now say they remember nothing about the document that wasn't sent. The document is called a Central Intelligence Report, or CIR.


selective memory.. isn't it great

Mihdhar came under CIA scrutiny because the National Security Agency had picked up communications that Al Qaeda operatives were planning travel to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, and Mihdhar showed up at the meetings.

Once in the United States, Mihdhar and Hazmi lived openly in San Diego and "should have drawn some scrutiny from the FBI," the report said.

The head of the San Diego FBI office responded that the report greatly exaggerates the possibility that local agents could have prevented the attacks.


they also neglect to mention the CIA had them under suveilance ath the Kuala Lumpur meeting and didn't tell the FBI or the INS who could have stopped them. and could have traced their bank records to 9 (yes 9) of the other Hijackers including Muhammed Atta

and we don't know how much they could have found out if they survieled those 9

So Folks do you think we need the paytoliet act to protect us from terrorism? or do we need competent people in charge of our security

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