Wednesday, January 25, 2006

L.A.Slimes on supporting the troops

I think its time for an olde school blog snarky response.

L.A Times and Joel Stein kick this off.

Joel Stein:
Warriors and wusses
I DON'T SUPPORT our troops. This is a particularly difficult opinion to have, especially if you are the kind of person who likes to put bumper stickers on his car. Supporting the troops is a position that even Calvin is unwilling to urinate on.

Right here is great. He starts right off with the offensive statement. And then implies the people who have the "I support our troops" bumper stickers on are shallow. I mean this is so professional journalism.

I'm sure I'd like the troops. They seem gutsy, young and up for anything. If you're wandering into a recruiter's office and signing up for eight years of unknown danger, I want to hang with you in Vegas.

again what is great is the fact most recruits don't go onto the combat line. but lets not stop there.

And I've got no problem with other people — the ones who were for the Iraq war — supporting the troops. If you think invading Iraq was a good idea, then by all means, support away. Load up on those patriotic magnets and bracelets and other trinkets the Chinese are making money off of.

Whats great about this again people who buy those things are shallow. And of course doesn't focus on the fact most of those items give out money to CHARITIES which support the troops and their families.

Again what a wonderful way to position yourself there Joel.

But I'm not for the war. And being against the war and saying you support the troops is one of the wussiest positions the pacifists have ever taken — and they're wussy by definition. It's as if the one lesson they took away from Vietnam wasn't to avoid foreign conflicts with no pressing national interest but to remember to throw a parade afterward.

again here its great implying people who don't support the war but are shallow and say "I support the troops" are even more shallow.

Blindly lending support to our soldiers, I fear, will keep them overseas longer by giving soft acquiescence to the hawks who sent them there — and who might one day want to send them somewhere else. Trust me, a guy who thought 50.7% was a mandate isn't going to pick up on the subtleties of a parade for just service in an unjust war. He's going to be looking for funnel cake.

we have the 50.7% isn't a mandate, but a lower percentage and less overall votes for Bill Clinton was

good times there. We also have another insult of people who support the troops. And oh yeah Bush is stupid. Here we have all the anti Bush derangment sentiments you can one here in a single package.

Besides, those little yellow ribbons aren't really for the troops. They need body armor, shorter stays and a USO show by the cast of "Laguna Beach."

again "people who buy ribbons are shallow" and of course the body armor canard which gets chucked out with the More Body Armor=more likely to be dead

good good times there.

The real purpose of those ribbons is to ease some of the guilt we feel for voting to send them to war and then making absolutely no sacrifices other than enduring two Wolf Blitzer shows a day. Though there should be a ribbon for that.

HOW DARE YOU. I have enough friends I can count on both hands, good friends who I have no desire to see put in the ground. I have a couple of friends I might have to carry into the cold cold ground if they die over there and you say thats not a sacrifice? how dare you. What about the women who send off their husbands and sons.

this shallow and sorry statement is the only thing in here i find really offensive, much of the rest I just find sad.

I understand the guilt. We know we're sending recruits to do our dirty work, and we want to seem grateful.

After we've decided that we made a mistake, we don't want to blame the soldiers who were ordered to fight. Or even our representatives, who were deceived by false intelligence. And certainly not ourselves, who failed to object to a war we barely understood.

"You are stupid if you supported the war so it isn't your fault."

He would however have had a perfect ten if he worked into this paragraph "BushitlerMchimpyburton lied because he WANTED your sons to die."

But blaming the president is a little too easy. The truth is that people who pull triggers are ultimately responsible, whether they're following orders or not. An army of people making individual moral choices may be inefficient, but an army of people ignoring their morality is horrifying. An army of people ignoring their morality, by the way, is also Jack Abramoff's pet name for the House of Representatives.

Soldiers: Since you don't mutiny it's your fault.

also he didn't get the Memo Jack Abramoff is not relevant to anyone

I am sure I sent it with a TPS cover sheet.

I do sympathize with people who joined up to protect our country, especially after 9/11, and were tricked into fighting in Iraq. I get mad when I'm tricked into clicking on a pop-up ad, so I can only imagine how they feel.

You are fighting in Iraq well your stupid and got tricked.

you aren't sacrificing enough for our moral system ergo your war values are wrong

such smarminess

But when you volunteer for the U.S. military, you pretty much know you're not going to be fending off invasions from Mexico and Canada. So you're willingly signing up to be a fighting tool of American imperialism, for better or worse. Sometimes you get lucky and get to fight ethnic genocide in Kosovo, but other times it's Vietnam.

Again: Its your fault if your in the military

And sometimes, for reasons I don't understand, you get to just hang out in Germany.

I am with ya there though.

I know this is all easy to say for a guy who grew up with money, did well in school and hasn't so much as served on jury duty for his country. But it's really not that easy to say because anyone remotely affiliated with the military could easily beat me up, and I'm listed in the phone book.

"Only stupid non rich people go into the military...but they could beat me up."

a tad bit of self depricating humor to deflect the hatred of troops in this bit.

I'm not advocating that we spit on returning veterans like they did after the Vietnam War, but we shouldn't be celebrating people for doing something we don't think was a good idea. All I'm asking is that we give our returning soldiers what they need: hospitals, pensions, mental health and a safe, immediate return. But, please, no parades.

You are evil for fighting in CHimpy Mchitlerburton's war. But you'll be crazy for doing it so we'll pay for it

so smarmy

Seriously, the traffic is insufferable.

Much like reading your article

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